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alistairproductions Says:

Jan 15, 2010 - How could an anarchist even suggest "vote obama"!

alistairproductions Says:

Jan 15, 2010 - @MillionthUsername why are you guys thumbs downing this comment. its true, no anarchist would vote obama. big govt is big power, obama is big govt. anarchy is anti power sources so this comment makes a lot of sense. Why isnt it getting respect?

brewerscrew Says:

Jan 21, 2010 - @bjmensz People need alot of stuff, that's part of what motivates people to work, if the government provided for all needs, what is the incentive to work?

paul8kangas Says:

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bjmensz Says:

Jan 23, 2010 - what does that have to do with anything i wrote. a government obviously cannot "provide for all needs" without magic or star trek technology, how about we remain on this planet and focus on a system of governance that can provide for basic health services, meet basic standards of policing and infrastructure, and is able to represent the public interest in domestic and foreign affairs. that would be a nice start, before we start worrying about people not working because they won't die of cancer.

bjmensz Says:

Jan 23, 2010 - because it isn't deserving of respect. he's just parroting a bunch of shallow stuff that doesn't actually have anything to do with reality. it doesn't make for great sloganeering, but voting democrat instead of republican in a swing state can save human lives. chomsky has no illusions about what the vote does and is. anarchism that doesn't have a deep respect for improving the human condition first and foremost isn't worth a damn thing.

alistairproductions Says:

Jan 23, 2010 - what, an anarchist wouldn't.....

alistairproductions Says:

Jan 23, 2010 - @bjmensz i dont think that's necessarily true. there are many instances where making an ideological statement rather than conforming to "vote for this guy or that guy" has made a difference. the lesser of two evils is still evil and shouldn't be supported. I don't think there's too much to be applauded in for just "pragmatism". Or compromise I guess. The idea that "obama may send LESS troops into unjust wars" You may disagree I just don't find it to be too appealing. I'd say go 3rd party..

brewerscrew Says:

Jan 23, 2010 - @bjmensz it has to do with what you wrote in the last sentence 'People NEED medicine, not ideological perfection.' I disagree, I say people need Freedom above all else. If the idea is to vote for taking other peoples goods and services (money) against their will, to pay for other peoples healthcare, then at least let it be a state by state vote. At least that way I'm still free to move to a state that respects my independence.

bjmensz Says:

Jan 24, 2010 - That's nice and all, but in the real world people need medicine, food, infrastructure, education etc. more than you need an iPhone, or whatever. it's kind of hard to exercise freedom when you're disabled by chronic illness, and frankly if you'd value this "freedom" (and you haven't really explained what that even means) over other people's lives, i'd say that's pretty awful.

brewerscrew Says:

Jan 24, 2010 - I've always thought freedom was what you could do in the absence of other people. Liberty is you excisizing a limit on freedom in a way that doesn't stop another person from excersizing their liberty. ie your freedom ends where mine begins. An institution with the monopoly to initiate force becomes tyrannical when it abuses it's granted powers, by using it's power to coerce property from it's citizens. They have become the enemy that we built them to protect us from.

brewerscrew Says:

Jan 24, 2010 - There are many brands of Anarchists, just like any other ideolog. This particular flavor of anarchist is called anarcho-socialist. The idea is to somehow have no rulers, but still live in a collective that dictates rules, with no institution to back up those rules. I personally believe it's more lenonistic then anarchist.

brewerscrew Says:

Jan 24, 2010 - Check out Anarcho-Capitalist if you really believe that, simply isn't true.

brewerscrew Says:

Jan 24, 2010 - @loturos: 'how would health care be different from what the US has now? ' Ok, so my wife had a cyst rupture. This has happened before and we knew the doc's were just going to give her morphine, till the pain went away. Instead of just going to the store an buying the morphine ourselves at what would be extreemly cheap price, we were forced to check into the E.R. and pay over 6,000 because of government intervention. 6000 - 3 = 5997 or a markup of %300,000.00. There's your diffence =).

loturos Says:

Jan 25, 2010 - @brewerscrew, I understand that completely. What I don't get is why Chomsky seems to advocate a state health care system, while he supposedly supports anarchism. The two contradict each other. Maybe he thinks that people should get what they vote for even if it means increasing government, I don't know.

GreatGrumbledook Says:

Jan 26, 2010 - Manifest treason! He has spoken like a traitor, and shall answer as traitors do. Therefore lay hold of him; bear him to the rock Tarpeian, and from thence into destruction cast him. He shall be thrown down the Tarpeian rock with rigorous hands: he hath resisted law, and therefore law shall scorn him further trial than the severity of the public power which he so sets at nought. AEdiles, seize him!

407buddy Says:

Jan 29, 2010 - How can people fight back the frauds.? By learning all about how our fraudulent fiat money "system" works, unravel the web of lies and the frauds, connect the dots, become an informed and (bare bone essentials) consumer, disassociate yourself from this fraudulent paper money system, expose what you have unraveled to others. Shop local mom and pop, buy some 9999 pure silver bullion (in your hands). Protect yourself. Starve the Beast!

TheDynamicPsyche Says:

Jan 31, 2010 - @brewerscrew Anarcho-Socialism doesn't exclude governance, the purpose of an Anarcho-Socialist programme is to give people direct control over their governance and dissolve any centralized power structure (i.e. gov't, corporations). Lenin was inherently anti Anarcho-socialist, he advocated a centralized state and passed State capitalist reforms.

jakiner Says:

Feb 2, 2010 - How can people fight back the frauds.?

Rkmomenah Says:

Mar 2, 2010 - @loturos You have to understand his take on anarchism to understand how it works with health care.

JiffyNo0b Says:

Mar 2, 2010 - The fuck?

GreatGrumbledook Says:

Mar 3, 2010 - @JiffyNo0b: The fuck! Thou protector of this damned strumpet, talk'st thou to me of "The fucks"? Thou art a traitor: Off with his head! Now, by Saint Paul I swear, I will not dine until I see the same. Look that it be done: The rest, that love me, rise and follow me.

JiffyNo0b Says:

Mar 3, 2010 - Oh, I get it now.

GreatGrumbledook Says:

Mar 3, 2010 - @JiffyNo0b: Would I be a curious person I would ask what you claim to have gotten now.

tonybonez Says:

Mar 5, 2010 - did he call him Noam "Chonsky"?